Article Posting Sites; Starting Points or Wring Mills?

There are a lot of groups on LinkedIn and other social networking sites that belittle and even downright insult writing for pay sites like Helium.com, Yahoo! and Bukisa that allow writers from all walks of life to learn the ropes of the writing industry. There are people who are "boycotting" these sites and encouraging, rather aggressively, other people to do the same.

The problem with boycotting these sites is that after a year with no contributions, and at helium with no ratings, the writers then forfeit all future earnings from these sites. Now, if they had a decent sized portfolio of articles, they could well be giving up over a thousand dollars a year, just because they didn't like something that happened.

As these sites, these so-called mills, start to get overwhelmed with articles, making publishers' skin crawl while pouring over poor grammatical and structural writing, these sites have to start deleting some of the worst articles. As some of the people who write at these sites get mad that their "craft" was deleted, they either rant and rave or blather on about how everyone should boycott the site(s) because they felt slighted. Seeing that they need to write better content in order to earn more money and keep their articles on the sites, they decide to simply leave and say it was due to the way that they were treated.

When articles have no page views for a year they may be deleted, as per the writing site's TOS, which is signed by all writers when they join the site. Again, most will not read all of the TOS when joining these sites, they just tick the box that they agree to the terms and then carry on registering.

For many people, the extra $100 or so that their old articles still generate in revenue stream earnings is a more than welcome addition to their measly income.

If you can afford to forgo the money that is being generated by your articles, good for you. But there is no really valid reason to encourage others to boycott these writing sites just because some of your articles had been deleted, most likely due to their being written in the first person, having incorrect information or not citing sources used.

For all of the writers (and people who write, many of whom may become writers, and some very good writers) that are being influenced by these naysayers, please disregard everything that they are saying; they are just bitter that they have little to no talent and want others to join them in leaving the site(s) so that they don't feel alone in doing so.

Maybe they've had articles deleted due to being written in the wrong person, or just because of all around poor writing, but, yes, articles get deleted. If they didn't, there would be just too many crappy articles drowning out the good ones that publishers have been regularly buying.

I've been ridiculed on LinkedIn for stating that I was fairly happy with Helium.com under the circumstances, and that earning $50 to $100 a month is better than nothing, especially when that is what I earn without writing articles, winning contests or selling stock content articles. Then I see these same people in Helium with recently published articles.

Monday, December 19, 2011

Is There Anything Wrong With Writing At "Article Mills"?

One More Article!




Is there some reason that so many people are dissing the so-called "article mills", the sites that allow writers to upload articles to titles with proven SEO rich content. Writers, no matter their skill level, can join these sites, and once they have a few articles submitted can ask for some pointers from anybody on the site and get almost immediate, professional assistance. Stewards are proven writers with a minimum number of published articles, and they can be assigned to one-on-one mentoring if you were to just ask.


If you submit problematic entries, no worries, you can leapfrog them with newer, improved submissions at any time. sound like such a horrible place? Add in that they give you a percentage of the revenue your articles generate (with you doing no PR work on your own work, like some sites make you do) at industry standard rates (better than Yahoo, with $2 per 1,000 page views), If you write well, you should be able to earn the $1 and $2 upfront payments, with no reduced RS.

Okay, I'll admit it sounds like Hell frozen over, like winter in Siberia with only your underwear to wear, like being a peasant in the 13th Century. Nah, it sounds pretty good to me, when you realize BEFORE hand, and anyone on the site will tell you honestly, that you WON'T GET RICH, AND YOU WON'T EARN DECENT MONEY UNTIL YOU HAVE A LOT OF WELL WRITTEN ARTICLES ON-SITE!

(that was me yelling! Did you hear me? Really? Oh, well...)

I'll admit that I type slowly, just in case there are slow readers out there who may not be able to keep up with me while they read along.

But, if you don't like these article mills, don't go there. We'll take the money that you might've earned. No worries there. If you don't like the place, don't come back (we know you were here, we have life-long databases, even if your account was frozen or stopped). There's no need to be telling young, starving writers to stay away from somewhere where they can easily earn a couple of hundred bucks a month. Where they can start to establish an Internet presence once they improve their craft to an acceptable level for publishers.

I started at Helium with no experience writing articles. I was a technical writer, and it took some time to learn to write to the specific audiences being targeted by Helium. 2 years in I was a steward, mentor, award winner. I had over 100 published articles (Car and Driver, RV Monthly, Field & Stream, etc). My best year I made  $3,150 - not bad in my books, but I guess I'm not a "professional" writer.

For any "hobbyist" or beginning writers out there, don't be swayed by their negativity. Just say "thank you sir, may I have another?" and then ignore them. Join an article mill, get noticed, make some money. You will need to submit at least 500 articles (think 2 a day) before you start realizing steady, regular paychecks (direct to your PayPal account).

7 comments:

  1. I will not knock what I have taken away from Helium. I have a good stable there which makes me passive income for no more than rating once per month. I have moved on to other pastures, but the experience was a good one.
    Red.

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  2. Everybody has to start off somewhere, and that is exactly the point I was trying to convey!

    Again, thanks for your input, and thanks for dropping by, Red!

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  3. The long-term earnings is where I see the best benefits. So I will continue to contribute. When my RS is rolling me in a monthly royalty, while the high-brows are still scurrying for 'more professional' venues, well, we shall see then who is eating steak, and who is eating baloney. :)

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  4. I've also taken a lot away from Helium, but like Red, I've moved on, and I've discovered that there is considerably more passive income to be earned at other writing venues. What bothers me is that poor quality writing gets lumped with that of really outstanding content. Rating is not a realistic or fair gauge of the quality of content. Unfortunately, that is where Helium falls short. Other sites vet writers and have editors that are evaluating the work. The criteria used to evaluate work is clear, and as a result, the caliber of the content is much better. Helium has been fun, and I've met great people, but I think that recent changes have done more to harm the site than help it. And as long as the site allows anyone to join, it will be identified as a writing mill. Another thing is that there are no restrictions on the resources that people can use. Most other content sites prohibit writers from using material that was written on other content sites as references. They also expect people to show that they have a perspective on the topic about which they are writing. I don't like the secrecy behind the changes at Helium. For whatever it is worth, my revenue increased substantially when I removed the link to my Helium About Me page in my Twitter profile and replaced it with my Demand Media Studios profile URL.

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  5. So, I guess so far that the consensus is that Helium is a great place to start off.

    Are you saying that Demand Studios pays more than $2.00 per 1,000 page views (as helium's top-paying channels do)?

    One problem I have with sites that use moderators to pick which articles are taken (as helium is now doing...) you are reliant on which person is reviewing your work.

    I'm kind of with Aaron on this one - I'll take my couple of hundred a month (Canadian dollars) and buy steaks, lobster cold packs (hey, I'm a Maritimer by birth and heart) and some pop.

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  6. I had good experiences with Helium way back. I made some money, but more important -- I found good friends. Then one day I had a peek behind the mask and left. Enough said.
    McD

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  7. The consensus seems to be that helium is a good place to start off. You learn and you earn, just as they advertise - so, what's so wrong with a site that lives up to what they advertise?

    Every comment i leave on the LinkedIn groups that do nothing other than to bash helium ("why writers need to boycott helium").

    That being said, there are just too many people saying that helium is the bottom of the barrel - that their deletion of articles is way beyond civil - it is in their TOS...

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